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Wikipedia:Requested moves
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Requested moves is a place for requesting the retitling of an article, a template, or a page in the Wikipedia namespace. Any logged-in user who has been registered for more than four days and has made at least ten edits can use the [move] tab located at the top of each page to perform simple moves (see Help:Moving a page). However, administrator help is required if the desired title is already occupied by a redirect with a page history of more than one edit (most common), if the redirect target has a single edit but is pointing to a different page than the article sought to be moved, if the desired title matches an entry on the title blacklist, or if the page is fully protected.
In some situations, the value of a move may be under dispute, and discussion is necessary in order to reach a consensus. There is no obligation to list such move requests here; discussions of page moves can always be carried out at the article's talk page without adding an entry. This page may be seen as a place to advertise move debates that would benefit from wider community input, or for users to request assistance from administrators in moving pages.
Most move requests are processed by a handful of RM regulars who are familiar with naming conventions, nonbinding precedents, and page moving procedures. Requests are generally processed after five days, although backlogs of a few days develop occasionally. If there is a clear consensus after this time, the request will be closed and acted upon. If not, the administrator may choose to re-list the request to allow time for consensus to develop, or close it as "no consensus".
Processes beyond the scope of this page
Separate processes exist for moving certain types of pages, and for changes other than page moves:
To rename an image, upload the image again, but with the name you want. Then change the relevant links to reflect the new name and list the old image at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion.
To rename a category, propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
To rename a stub template, propose the move at Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion.
To merge two articles, make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed mergers or be bold and do it yourself.
To request that page histories be merged, list them at Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen.
Requesting uncontroversial moves
If the move you are suggesting is uncontroversial and technically possible, please feel free to move the page yourself. Moves are possible (for registered users with accounts over four days old) when the desired name is a red link, or in cases where the target is a simple redirect—a redirect to the current title, with no prior versions in its edit history. After moving a page, update its text to reflect the new title.
If there has been any past debate about the best title for the page, or if the page has recently been moved in good faith, or if anyone could honestly disagree with the move, then treat it as controversial. Otherwise, post your request in the Uncontroversial proposals section of this page.
If the only obstacle to an uncontroversial move is a navigation aid (e.g. a redirect or an unnecessary disambiguation page with a minor edit history), the template {{db-move}} can be used instead to have that page deleted under criterion for speedy deletion G6.
Requesting potentially controversial moves
Please follow all three steps listed below when requesting a move.
- Step 1 — Add move template to talk page
- Enter {{move|NewName}} at the top of the talk page of the page you want moved, replacing "NewName" with the new name for the article, or add {{moveoptions}} if you are unsure of the best title for the article.
- Step 2 — Create a place for discussion
- If the discussion does not already exist, create a section at the bottom of the talk page of the page you have requested to be moved. This can take any form that is reasonable for administrators to follow, although it is convenient to use the heading
==Requested move==, because this is assumed by the template in step 3. The template {{subst:RMtalk|NewName|reason for move}} can be used to create a framework for a poll, but be aware that polling can be divisive.
- Once the requested move process is at an end, the only record of the requested move is kept on the talk page of the article. The current page name and the suggested new name must be placed at the top of the section where the move is discussed so that editors who read the talk page in the future can see clearly what the proposed move was.
- Step 3 — Add the request to the "Other proposals" list on this page
- Add {{subst:RMlink|PageName|NewName|reason for move}} at the top of the section under the date line, replacing PageName, NewName and reason for move with the existing title, the new name for the article and the reason for moving it. The template will include all the necessary formatting, including your signature.
- Alternatively, if the new name for the article is unclear, add {{subst:RMlink?|PageName|reason for move}} at the top of the section under the date line, replacing PageName with the existing title and reason for move with the reason for moving it. The template will include all the necessary formatting, including your signature.
Moving several pages at once
An example of how to request to move a block of pages:
*([[Talk:Page A|Discuss]]) -- Rationale goes here. --~~~~
**[[Page A]] → [[Page D]]
**[[Page B]] → [[Page E]]
**[[Page C]] → [[Page F]]
On Talk:Page A, follow steps 1 and 2 above (add {{move|Page D}} to the top and create a section for discussion).
On Talk:Page B, add {{multimove|Page E|Talk:Page A}} to the top.
On Talk:Page C, add {{multimove|Page F|Talk:Page A}} to the top.
Uncontroversial proposals
Only list proposals here that are clearly uncontroversial but require administrator help to complete (for example, spelling and capitalization fixes). Do not list a proposed page move in this section if there is any possibility that it could be opposed by anyone. Please list new requests at the bottom of the list in this section and use {{subst:RMassist|Old page name|Requested name|Reason for move}} rather than copying previous entries. The template will automatically include your signature. No edits to the article's talk page are required.
If you object to a proposal listed here, please re-list it in the #Incomplete and contested proposals section below.
Incomplete and contested proposals
With the exception of a brief description of the problem or objection to the move request, please do not discuss move requests here. If you support an incomplete or contested move request, please consider following the instructions above to create a full move request, and move the discussion to the "Other Proposals" section below. Requests that remain incomplete after five days will be removed.
- Linux → Linux (GNU/Linux) —(Discuss)— this would allow both names to be treated equally, without bias to either one. And neutrality is one of Wikipedia's top mandates after all. Ensign Q (talk) 23:13, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
- Incomplete. JPG-GR (talk) 23:38, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
- Value (philosophy) → Value (ethics) — The whole article deals with "ethic or philosophic value", but ethics may be regarded as a subdivision of philosophy, and the whole article, as far as I can see, only deals with that subdivision. For instance, intrinsic value already has (ethics) as an attribute. I know many redirects need to be changed, but I can deal with the main part of that. — The world deserves the truth (talk) 11:02, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
- The article is a bit messy, but it does speak about values other than ethics (e.g. economics). It would be sensible to discuss before moving. 87.114.17.201 (talk) 13:48, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
- The fact that it doesn't clearly mean ethic value specifically probably contributes significantly to the mess. Value (economics) already has an own article - the article just describes the possible correlation between it and ethic value. I suggest this discussion be continued on its talk page. The world deserves the truth (talk) 17:49, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
- Bosnian mujahideen->Mujahideen in Bosnia and Herzegovina (The first title is not accurate, the second one includes official name of the country related to the subject. The country's name is Bosnia and Herzegovina, not Bosnia. Further more, the first title is not supported by the sources and gives wrong impression). I was advised by admin PBS to place an offical request here. Kruško Mortale (talk) 08:21, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- Incomplete. No place for discussion of this move is provided and no link to it. For what it's worth, the existing discussion touches on this point but I see no consensus for this move. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 16:00, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Other proposals
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- Striker → Forward (association football) —(Discuss)— The current title of this article is not appropriate. The term "striker" may encompass centre-forwards and second strikers, but it is not commonly used to refer to wing forwards such as Cristiano Ronaldo or Lionel Messi. I certainly would never refer to either of those two as a striker. The term "forward", however, refers to any player who plays in an advanced role, whether they be a striker, a second striker or a winger. The disambiguator "association football" is only necessary to disambiguate from other articles about forwards. --– PeeJay 09:57, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
- Morion (helmet) → Morion —(Discuss)— A GoogleFight revealed that there were more hits for "morion" the helmet than for "morion" the mineral. I think it would be more helpful to have the page "Morion" link to the article for the helmet, and to have the mineral article be renamed "Morion (mineral)") --Witan (talk) 19:36, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
- Aravane Rezai → Aravane Rezaï —(Discuss)— The move will re-instate the diacritic, which is accurate, appropriate, and in accordance with naming conventions and all other articles where diacritics are used. --Maedin\talk 18:26, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Contested: WP:PRIMARYUSAGE. I think a blockbuster that grossed $112m is more important than erotica. 87.113.103.202 (talk) 17:20, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- WP:PRIMARYUSAGE does not apply here because Twins (film) is already Not a primary page. See Talk:Twins (film) for more discussion. --Neo-Jay (talk) 17:55, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- American Association of Blood Banks → AABB —(Discuss)— article was moved inappropriately to expand an acronym, but the name is no longer an acronym as explicitly cited in the article from the organization's own web page. It is now just a four letter name in capitals. The current location should obviously redirect to the correct location instead of being a disambiguation page. The article was formerly hatnoted for the other definition, which is an acronym. --SDY (talk) 01:41, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- Roc → Roc (disambiguation) —(Discuss)— A few users insist on redirecting Roc to Republic of China so much that they actually keep blanking this dab page, so I guess I have no choice but to "request" a move myself. In case it's not clear, I oppose this move. --Prolog (talk) 18:14, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- (Discuss) — These are not lists of the asteroids, but of all numbered minor planets. 'Minor planet' is the technical term used by the International Astronomical Union. Not all minor planets are asteroids, and which are asteroids is a contentious issue, as the term is poorly defined. JPL/NASA say on their websites that the Kuiper Belt Objects, among others, are better called "minor planets" than "asteroids", and no-one would call Pluto an asteroid, despite the fact that it has been issued a minor-planet number and is on the list. The only reason I bring it up for discussion is because there are hundreds of sub-articles to be moved, which will require a bot. (Oh, and "SSSB" will not work either, as it excludes the dwarf planets, which are on the list, but includes the comets, which are not.) —kwami (talk) 03:16, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- Azerbaijani people → Azeri people —(Discuss)— The subject of this Featured Article is the Azeri ethnic group, but the title refers to inhabitants of Azerbaijan, some of whom are not Azeri. Also, half of Azeris live not in Azerbaijan but in Iran. --kwami (talk) 01:39, 9 October 2008 (UTC) kwami (talk) 01:39, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- I have made another proposal to rename this "natural born citizen", to reflect how it is written in the U.S. Constitution. — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 01:06, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Konak (District), İzmir → Konak, İzmir —(Discuss)— Even for purposes of distinguishing from Konak (residence), the use of adding (District) in parenthesis is debatable. Other localities called Konak are specified by the country where they are located (Serbia and Bulgaria), but Konak, İzmir is probably more appopriate in the case of this Konak, since there are a few other localities called under the same name in Turkey, and this one is the historical and actual center of the metropolitan area of İzmir. I tried to move myself as I did for Urla, İzmir, but it didn't work. Cretanforever (talk) 11:13, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- List of Canadians of Asian ancestry → Asian Canadian —(Discuss)— I am requesting a full move. I want the article to be about Asian Canadians in general just like the Asian American Article and the Asian Australian Article. I also want to remove the list of asian names and put them in a separate article. --Sonic99 (talk) 02:14, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
Backlog
Move dated sections here after five days have passed (October 7 or older).
- SS Komagata Maru → Komagata Maru —(Discuss)— The move is necessary to eliminate duplication of pages and to provide for the proper nomenclature for the ship's name. At present the details concerning the ship, Komagata Maru, are under "SS Komagata Maru." As has been noted on that page, the proper nomenclature should be "Komagata Maru." (See also Japanese ship naming conventions.) A "Komagata Maru" page already exists, which is a redirect to the "SS Komagata Maru" page. The move would eliminate the duplication of pages. --Macman1956 (talk) 04:01, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
- Ambitionz az a Ridah → Ambitionz Az a Ridah —(Discuss)— Normally, "as" or any variation thereof is not capitalized, but, as incorrect as it may be, it is capitalized for the title of this song. Everytime I try to change the page, Sesshomaru acuses me of vandalising the page, a page I created myself, without attempting to discuss the topic on the talk page. --Wakamusha (talk) 00:36, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
- Right → Rights — (Discuss) — target name is currently a redirect to current name; very old consensus on talk page suggested this move, but it never happened — Pfhorrest (talk) 08:12, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
- That old discussion is very short. More discussion is needed. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:33, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
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- Discussion has resumed. — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 20:00, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
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- Relisting. JPG-GR (talk) 17:39, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
- Israeli navy → Israel Navy —(Discuss)— See talk page (#Name of this article) - no objections for move for a month. Also in line with other major Israeli security forces units like Israel Defense Forces, Israel Police and Israel Prison Service. --Ynhockey (Talk) 17:27, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
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